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paytonjadee (November 21st, 2008 @ 4:36 pm)
this is beautiful open your hearts people! jesus saves!
AzNsUpBeAt (November 21st, 2008 @ 6:19 am)
y r we even argueing about this in the first place? i mean, its about what really works for you I've been an Xn for several years now, and i really do believe that Jesus really does work in our lives, but seriously, just cuz you don't believe doesnt mean that i have to h8 you but, if you haven't given it a chance yet, try not to judge it so much who knows? it might work for you not every1 has to be Xn, but it doesn't hurt to give it a shot. this stuff saved Eric Clapton from alcoholism =D
Sethtann (November 21st, 2008 @ 5:45 am)
If you are arguing about this video, then you are a perfect example of what is holding humanity back. The truth has always been right in front of us, in the form of literature that has been misenterpreted, and also literature that enterprets. Seek and you shall find. Notice that you MUST seek, and that is what so many fail to do in the everyday hustle and bustle of life. What I'm saying is there's no argument on this subject anymore. There are people who know, and people who are scared to know.
mythoughtsfortoday (November 20th, 2008 @ 1:34 am)
You are right. But if one accepts the Salvation of Christ Jesus, They will be saved from hell. Did you only watch half the video?
moggotson (November 18th, 2008 @ 10:26 am)
"You even used the word "therefore," a function of logic." Logic is a perspective of construct. I never played well in boxes. I prefer the open spaces.
moggotson (November 18th, 2008 @ 10:23 am)
Logic is only as sound, as you believe the premise on which it is based, to be. There is no logic without belief.
roachapproach599 (November 18th, 2008 @ 10:06 am)
ok im done, i guess everyone who doesnt believe jesus saves them is automatically going to hell and being a good person doesnt matter. so i guess ill be going to hell when i die, yay. well i guess its a good thing hell is a load of crap now isnt it. have fun living your blinded life.
agapemike (November 18th, 2008 @ 2:52 am)
"[we] wish to accept responsibility for our actions." I don't advocate that one MUST believe in Jesus... What keeps a poor man from accepting a hand-out? Pride. I do believe that once presented with the Gospel, it is pride that keeps many from accepting the gift of grace, feeling as if they want to be on their own, taking responsibility for their actions. This is stated with the premise that sin removes us from God (consequence) and payment is needed for that distance to be erased.
agapemike (November 18th, 2008 @ 2:30 am)
I find it humorous that you even participe in debate, which requires the application of logic. You provided an analogy to prove your point, another application of logic. You even used the word "therefore," a function of logic. I believe you need to explain yourself further before you dismiss logic, the very thing that allows you to make an argument. IF you don't THEN nobody will give your thoughts any relevance (sorry, I couldn't resist).
agapemike (November 18th, 2008 @ 2:17 am)
Furthermore, I don't believe you answered my question. You made a statement and attributed it to logic. You later made the statement that logic is worthless. In essence, you negated your authority to make the first statement. Your analogy to how whites viewed blacks is only an example of how mistakes can be made in assumptions, not a proof of the falibility of logic. Logic itself (if A=B and B=C then A=C) is sound. The processes of logic are complicated, thus we often find false outcomes.
agapemike (November 18th, 2008 @ 2:06 am)
Tbt, Since you have put forth the opinion that nothing of value comes from logic, nullifying the scientific method, than will you do us all the courtesy of stating "I believe" when you make assertions like "We are no more [than natural processes]?" I don't believe making such a statement of fact is any more fair than any other person making statements of fact about thier beliefs.
nessaluver350 (November 17th, 2008 @ 11:58 pm)
God and Jesus are one...fyi

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